Famed investor and endowment manager David Swensen, chief investment officer of Yale University, sat down for an hour-long conversation with former treasury secretary Bob Rubin at the Council on Foreign Relations in late 2017.

The interview was the keynote session of the Stephen C. Freidheim Symposium on Global Economics. The symposium focused on the future of investment management in a world of low returns, the financial pressures felt by universities, states, and individuals around the world, and methods for adjusting to low returns on investments.

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