We are out with the second episode of our new podcast, featuring three terrific investors as regular guests:

  • Chris Bloomstran of Semper Augustus, based in St. Louis, MO
  • Phil Ordway of Anabatic Investment Partners, based in Chicago, IL
  • Elliot Turner of RGA Investment Advisors, based in Stamford, CT

Enjoy the conversation!

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In this episode, John Mihaljevic of MOI Global hosts a discussion on three topics:

[starting at 0:55] Corporate governance and capital allocation, led by Phil Ordway of Anabatic Investment Partners

Phil makes the case for owner-oriented governance and highlights companies that embrace this approach, including Alaska Airlines, which is one of the companies that have invited Phil’s input and advice on a Board level.

Download Phil’s updated slides. Listen to his related talks from 2019 and 2020.

During the discussion, which includes a critique of the practice of providing earnings guidance, Elliot mentions IAC’s recent letter, in which CEO Joey Levin shares his preference for disclosing monthly trends over guiding EPS.

[starting at 28:20] Housing and the business cycle, led by Elliot Turner of RGA Investment Advisors

Elliot highlights an influential NBER paper from 2007, “Housing IS the Business Cycle.” He explains how the findings of the paper may apply today, with fascinating implications for the economy and the stock market.

[starting at 57:20] Gold and gold miners as potential investments, led by Chris Bloomstran of Semper Augustus

Chris raises the topic of gold in light of the metal’s strong recent performance, and poses the question whether gold miners remain sound investments. We discuss gold’s appeal as a hedge in a time of lacking central bank discipline.

For gold-related data, visit the World Gold Council.

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About the participants:

Christopher P. Bloomstran, CFA , is the President and Chief Investment Officer of Semper Augustus Investments Group LLC. Chris has more than 25 years of investment experience with a value-driven approach to fundamental equity and industry research. At Semper Augustus, Chris directs all aspects of the firm’s research and portfolio management effort. Prior to forming Semper Augustus in 1998 – in the midst of the stock market and technology bubble – Chris was a Vice President and Portfolio Manager at UMB Investment Advisors. While at UMB Investment Advisors, Chris managed the Trust Investment offices in St. Louis and Denver. Among his investment duties at the firm, he managed the Scout Balanced Fund from the fund’s inception in 1995 until 1998, when he left to start Semper Augustus. Chris received his Bachelor of Science in Business Administration with an emphasis in Finance from the University of Colorado at Boulder, where he also played football. He earned his Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) designation in 1994. Chris is a member of the CFA Society of St. Louis and of the CFA Institute. He has served on the Board of Directors of the CFA Society of St. Louis since 2002, where he was elected to sequential terms as Vice President from 2005 to 2006, President from 2006 to 2007 and Immediate Past President from 2007 to 2009. Chris has judged the Global Finals and the Americas Finals several times for CFA Institute’s University Global Investment Challenge. Chris served for a number of years as a member of the Bretton Woods Committee in Washington DC, an institution championing and raising awareness of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organization. He has also served on various not-for profit boards in St. Louis. His resides in St. Louis with his wife and two children.

Philip Ordway is Managing Principal and Portfolio Manager of Anabatic Fund, L.P. Previously, Philip was a partner at Chicago Fundamental Investment Partners (CFIP). At CFIP, which he joined in 2007, Philip was responsible for investments across the capital structure in various industries. Prior to joining CFIP, Philip was an analyst in structured corporate finance with Citigroup Global Markets, Inc. from 2002 to 2005. Philip earned his B.S. in Education & Social Policy and Economics from Northwestern University in 2002 and his M.B.A. from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University in 2007, where he now serves as an Adjunct Professor in the Finance Department.

Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunities. Elliot focuses on discovering and analyzing long-term, high quality investment opportunities and strategic portfolio management. Prior to joining RGA, Elliot managed portfolios at at AustinWeston Asset Management LLC, Chimera Securities and T3 Capital. Elliot holds the Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) designation as well as a Juris Doctor from Brooklyn Law School.. He also holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from Emory University where he double majored in Political Science and Philosophy.